Brick Offset & Vertical Smoker with Outdoor Kitchen

Smokers and Ovens made of Brick and Stone
Post Reply
User avatar
Dirtytires
Expert
Expert
Posts: 3845
Joined: November 24th, 2015, 12:36 am
Title: It ain't broke...yet
BBQ Comp Team Name: Dont compete...cook for events once in a while
Location: Phoenix, Az

Re: Brick Offset & Vertical Smoker with Outdoor Kitchen

Post by Dirtytires » February 28th, 2021, 11:21 am

On your tank, use it till it’s empty. With that said, if your gauges are accurate, it won’t take more than a few minutes once the needle hits zero.

On the flip side, you definitely can get a replacement before it’s completely empty. I now keep a spare full bottle in the shop but would sometimes take mine in for an exchange on a Friday so as not to run out over the weekend when my supplier is closed. Nothing worse than running out of gas on a Saturday morning and wasting a good weekend of welding.



Sign Up For SmokerBuilderU
User avatar
Cole Leffert
Big Time SmokerBuilder
Big Time SmokerBuilder
Posts: 240
Joined: June 11th, 2020, 10:23 am
Title: Country boy!
Location: Indiana

Re: Brick Offset & Vertical Smoker with Outdoor Kitchen

Post by Cole Leffert » March 1st, 2021, 10:15 am

Looking really good! Can't wait to see the finished product!



BigPete
SmokerBuilder Addict
SmokerBuilder Addict
Posts: 161
Joined: May 27th, 2020, 5:21 am

Re: Brick Offset & Vertical Smoker with Outdoor Kitchen

Post by BigPete » March 2nd, 2021, 2:43 am

Dirtytires wrote:
February 28th, 2021, 11:21 am
On your tank, use it till it’s empty. With that said, if your gauges are accurate, it won’t take more than a few minutes once the needle hits zero.

On the flip side, you definitely can get a replacement before it’s completely empty. I now keep a spare full bottle in the shop but would sometimes take mine in for an exchange on a Friday so as not to run out over the weekend when my supplier is closed. Nothing worse than running out of gas on a Saturday morning and wasting a good weekend of welding.
Yep, sorely tempted to do this now. I dont want to waste whats left in the tank but dont want to run out either. I guess I can always return the empty bottle to get my deposit back and drop down to 1 bottle once this project is finished.
Cole Leffert wrote:
March 1st, 2021, 10:15 am
Looking really good! Can't wait to see the finished product!
Thanks, that makes 2 of us!!! Whoever said I had a lot of work ahead of me was 100% right



BigPete
SmokerBuilder Addict
SmokerBuilder Addict
Posts: 161
Joined: May 27th, 2020, 5:21 am

Re: Brick Offset & Vertical Smoker with Outdoor Kitchen

Post by BigPete » March 5th, 2021, 1:47 pm

Some really good progress after a recent steel delivery. Took a few hours to knock this up and get or painted and fitted.
20210305_184327.jpg
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.



User avatar
SheffSmoker
Expert
Expert
Posts: 393
Joined: June 12th, 2020, 11:45 am
Title: Junk Fettler
BBQ Comp Team Name: Not competing, normally too drunk.
Location: UK

Re: Brick Offset & Vertical Smoker with Outdoor Kitchen

Post by SheffSmoker » March 6th, 2021, 5:25 am

Top work Pete, looks like you're getting to grips with the new welder now. :)


You can never have too many hammers.

BigPete
SmokerBuilder Addict
SmokerBuilder Addict
Posts: 161
Joined: May 27th, 2020, 5:21 am

Re: Brick Offset & Vertical Smoker with Outdoor Kitchen

Post by BigPete » March 6th, 2021, 2:50 pm

SheffSmoker wrote:
March 6th, 2021, 5:25 am
Top work Pete, looks like you're getting to grips with the new welder now. :)
Aye getting there, still a lot to learn though, think I hit the duty cycle limit earlier today :)

Figured it'd be rude not to give it a proper test tonight.
20210306_195014.jpg
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.




BigPete
SmokerBuilder Addict
SmokerBuilder Addict
Posts: 161
Joined: May 27th, 2020, 5:21 am

Re: Brick Offset & Vertical Smoker with Outdoor Kitchen

Post by BigPete » March 8th, 2021, 11:29 am

Guys, I had planned to make the offset smoker a reverse flow, but I suspect getting removable baffles even close to air tight will be impossible. So my questions are -

1) do the reverse flow baffles need to be air tight or is a little 'leakage' acceptable?
2) if the reverse flow idea is out the window and it becomes a normal offset, am I right in saying that ideally a collector box at the bottom of the chimney should be as close to the level of the grates as best possible?



BigPete
SmokerBuilder Addict
SmokerBuilder Addict
Posts: 161
Joined: May 27th, 2020, 5:21 am

Re: Brick Offset & Vertical Smoker with Outdoor Kitchen

Post by BigPete » March 8th, 2021, 12:05 pm

Heres a quick sketchup of how the stack could look with a larger collector - purple line is grate level. The circular is the opening radius of a horizontal hatch.
chimney1.png
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.



dacolson

Re: Brick Offset & Vertical Smoker with Outdoor Kitchen

Post by dacolson » March 8th, 2021, 3:39 pm

Ideally - in my opinion - yes. Most modern pit builders designing standard offsets - Moberg, Mill Scale, Fat Stacks, etc - all have the stack at grate level. There are thousands of others out there that smoke just fine with stacks at the top of the CC so if you’re not able to build it that way, I’m sure it will work out.



User avatar
Dirtytires
Expert
Expert
Posts: 3845
Joined: November 24th, 2015, 12:36 am
Title: It ain't broke...yet
BBQ Comp Team Name: Dont compete...cook for events once in a while
Location: Phoenix, Az

Re: Brick Offset & Vertical Smoker with Outdoor Kitchen

Post by Dirtytires » March 9th, 2021, 10:34 am

Baffle plate needs to be welded in completely. Any leaks will allow heat to escape and possibly create hot spots in the cook chamber. More importantly tho is grease will leak down and is more susceptible to a grease fire.



BigPete
SmokerBuilder Addict
SmokerBuilder Addict
Posts: 161
Joined: May 27th, 2020, 5:21 am

Re: Brick Offset & Vertical Smoker with Outdoor Kitchen

Post by BigPete » March 9th, 2021, 1:35 pm

Excellent thanks gents, regular offset it is :) got a solid 7hours cutting and welding in today great progress but the neighbours must hate me!! Will post a few photos tomorrow.

Need to work out a design for cook chamber handle that can the heats of a BBQ not just smoking temps.



dacolson

Re: Brick Offset & Vertical Smoker with Outdoor Kitchen

Post by dacolson » March 9th, 2021, 7:49 pm

Pay the neighbors off with smoked meat [emoji51]


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk



BigPete
SmokerBuilder Addict
SmokerBuilder Addict
Posts: 161
Joined: May 27th, 2020, 5:21 am

Re: Brick Offset & Vertical Smoker with Outdoor Kitchen

Post by BigPete » March 10th, 2021, 7:39 am

dacolson wrote:
March 9th, 2021, 7:49 pm
Pay the neighbors off with smoked meat [emoji51]


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Yea I'm going to have to do them a rack of ribs or something.

The damper picture for the vertical smoker
20210310_123731.jpg
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.



User avatar
SheffSmoker
Expert
Expert
Posts: 393
Joined: June 12th, 2020, 11:45 am
Title: Junk Fettler
BBQ Comp Team Name: Not competing, normally too drunk.
Location: UK

Re: Brick Offset & Vertical Smoker with Outdoor Kitchen

Post by SheffSmoker » March 10th, 2021, 9:05 am

BigPete wrote:
March 9th, 2021, 1:35 pm
Excellent thanks gents, regular offset it is :) got a solid 7hours cutting and welding in today great progress but the neighbours must hate me!! Will post a few photos tomorrow.

Need to work out a design for cook chamber handle that can the heats of a BBQ not just smoking temps.
I'm using a wooden handle on my firebox door, Pete. Bolted on via a 2" bit of plate welded to the door, Wherever there's a join the heat doesn't seem to conduct as much, it's darkened a bit from first fitting but never any danger of it igniting. Similarly, our old gas BBQ has a plastic handle bolted to the lid!


You can never have too many hammers.

BigPete
SmokerBuilder Addict
SmokerBuilder Addict
Posts: 161
Joined: May 27th, 2020, 5:21 am

Re: Brick Offset & Vertical Smoker with Outdoor Kitchen

Post by BigPete » March 20th, 2021, 12:30 pm

Some more progress over the last couple of weeks. Nice to get it in its final resting place too as the base alone without lid or doors is probably around 150-180lbs.
20210320_172538.jpg
20210320_172613.jpg
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.



dacolson

Re: Brick Offset & Vertical Smoker with Outdoor Kitchen

Post by dacolson » March 20th, 2021, 11:04 pm

Really looking nice BigPete. Huge investment on your pat building a permanent pit like this. It looks super nice. Here’s to hoping it fires as designed. You deserve some killer que for the effort you’ve invested. .



User avatar
Big T
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 6895
Joined: September 1st, 2013, 2:40 pm
Title: Go Getter
BBQ Comp Team Name: Backyard Boys
Location: Lower Alabama

Re: Brick Offset & Vertical Smoker with Outdoor Kitchen

Post by Big T » March 20th, 2021, 11:35 pm

:yth: definitely looks killer!


Measure Twice.....Cut Three Times.

Cole
SmokerBuilder Addict
SmokerBuilder Addict
Posts: 154
Joined: November 7th, 2017, 8:20 pm
Title: Member
BBQ Comp Team Name: Not competing yet, Family and Friends!
Location: Ohio / Michigan Border

Re: Brick Offset & Vertical Smoker with Outdoor Kitchen

Post by Cole » March 21st, 2021, 8:50 am

That thing is awesome, imagine a firepit on the ground, friends, all kinds of cold beverages and food!

:beer:



BigPete
SmokerBuilder Addict
SmokerBuilder Addict
Posts: 161
Joined: May 27th, 2020, 5:21 am

Re: Brick Offset & Vertical Smoker with Outdoor Kitchen

Post by BigPete » March 22nd, 2021, 2:37 pm

Thanks guys for all the help and suggestions to get this far! Just have to make the grills and then it'll be ready for a test.

The wooden handle came out really well, will gets few other photos up shortly including the inside.



BigPete
SmokerBuilder Addict
SmokerBuilder Addict
Posts: 161
Joined: May 27th, 2020, 5:21 am

Re: Brick Offset & Vertical Smoker with Outdoor Kitchen

Post by BigPete » March 24th, 2021, 1:58 pm

Got the grills, gasket and thermometers done. Obviously had to fire it up to season the grills and then though itd be a waste of charcoal not to at least try it at the same time :D
20210324_174636.jpg
20210324_174652.jpg
20210324_174706.jpg
The lid is heavy but don't know if I need a counter balance or not (yet) wife says she does which makes me wonder should I or not :D After the pork chops were ready I fired in my temp probes and (left and right) and over about 80mins there was only about a 5degC drop without touching anything. Will test the offset draw tomorrow all being well.
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.



dacolson

Re: Brick Offset & Vertical Smoker with Outdoor Kitchen

Post by dacolson » March 24th, 2021, 7:02 pm

Love the progress! That’s a sharp looking grill. I bet you find a reason to cook everything out there now.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk



BigPete
SmokerBuilder Addict
SmokerBuilder Addict
Posts: 161
Joined: May 27th, 2020, 5:21 am

Re: Brick Offset & Vertical Smoker with Outdoor Kitchen

Post by BigPete » April 26th, 2021, 2:36 am

Some good progress and a few set backs.

+ Path laid
+Worktop tiled
+Sink & taps fitted
- neighbours complaining about smoke (even after getting free BBQ)
-leak in my plumbing
-lit the BBQ and the gas/heat escaped and crack the tile.

For the last point I was thinking that if I grind back the grout to the BBQ frame and then seal with a high temperature silicon to give a flexible gasket this might work? Any other ideas from anyone?
20210426_082953.jpg
20210426_083010.jpg
20210426_083036.jpg
20210426_083049.jpg
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.



User avatar
SheffSmoker
Expert
Expert
Posts: 393
Joined: June 12th, 2020, 11:45 am
Title: Junk Fettler
BBQ Comp Team Name: Not competing, normally too drunk.
Location: UK

Re: Brick Offset & Vertical Smoker with Outdoor Kitchen

Post by SheffSmoker » April 26th, 2021, 4:53 am

Looking great, Pete!

How much of a gap did you leave between the metal and the tile? It's more than likely thermal expansion of the pit that has cracked the tile by the looks of it. I'd leave an expansion gap and use high temp silicon as you suggested. Wouldn't look out of place in black. :)


You can never have too many hammers.

BigPete
SmokerBuilder Addict
SmokerBuilder Addict
Posts: 161
Joined: May 27th, 2020, 5:21 am

Re: Brick Offset & Vertical Smoker with Outdoor Kitchen

Post by BigPete » April 26th, 2021, 6:51 am

SheffSmoker wrote:
April 26th, 2021, 4:53 am
Looking great, Pete!

How much of a gap did you leave between the metal and the tile? It's more than likely thermal expansion of the pit that has cracked the tile by the looks of it. I'd leave an expansion gap and use high temp silicon as you suggested. Wouldn't look out of place in black. :)
Thanks it's coming along nicely, just disappointing that any time I use it the neighbour bitches, really puts a damper on it all, especially when all possible options have been done to minimise the impact to them. (Stack as high as could without planning permission etc)

Stupidly in hindsight I hadn't left a gap but did use a flexible high temp group but it certainly wouldn't have as much give as a bead of silicon.



Post Reply
  • Similar Topics
    Replies
    Views
    Last post

Return to “Brick and Stone Pits”