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Re: new offset build

Post by Daves87gn » July 17th, 2021, 9:48 pm

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Start posting about the issue on Twitter. Might improve their response time.


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Re: new offset build

Post by Daves87gn » July 17th, 2021, 10:39 pm

On the bright side, I’ve had to go see my buddy Tom for my welding needs and got to TIG weld.
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Re: new offset build

Post by Dirtytires » July 18th, 2021, 11:17 am

What brand did you purchase? Seems odd that any major manufacture would not cover a new machine under a warranty.



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Re: new offset build

Post by dacolson » July 18th, 2021, 11:20 am

Isn’t it a Lincoln?


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Re: new offset build

Post by Daves87gn » July 18th, 2021, 1:18 pm

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What brand did you purchase? Seems odd that any major manufacture would not cover a new machine under a warranty.
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Re: new offset build

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Isn’t it a Lincoln?


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new offset build

Post by dacolson » July 18th, 2021, 1:18 pm

Ya. They should cover it for sure. Did you buy it new?


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Re: new offset build

Post by Daves87gn » July 18th, 2021, 2:42 pm

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Ya. They should cover it for sure. Did you buy it new?


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Yes, brand new it’s about 2 months old now, I still have the box and everything. I want to be sure, I’m not bashing or trying to bash Lincoln, we have 2 Lincoln’s at work, 1 stays at our shop, one on a metal pallet that get loaded, unloaded and abused and both work great. My buddy Tom is on his 4th Lincoln, 2 other friends that weld have Lincoln’s. This is the welder I was using yesterday to learn to TIG.
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Re: new offset build

Post by dacolson » July 18th, 2021, 9:39 pm

Did you buy it from you gas supplier? Mine is always supper helpful w warranty work, support etc


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Re: new offset build

Post by Brewmaster » July 19th, 2021, 10:46 am

Thanks for the photos, that's a beautiful smoker you built! I'd stand in line :)

The lack of support on the welder is really too bad, hopefully, they step to the plate for you.



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Re: new offset build

Post by Dirtytires » July 19th, 2021, 10:53 am

Interesting....keep us posted.



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Re: new offset build

Post by tinspark » July 19th, 2021, 9:45 pm

Daves87gn wrote:
July 18th, 2021, 2:42 pm
dacolson wrote:
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Ya. They should cover it for sure. Did you buy it new?


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Yes, brand new it’s about 2 months old now, I still have the box and everything. I want to be sure, I’m not bashing or trying to bash Lincoln, we have 2 Lincoln’s at work, 1 stays at our shop, one on a metal pallet that get loaded, unloaded and abused and both work great. My buddy Tom is on his 4th Lincoln, 2 other friends that weld have Lincoln’s. This is the welder I was using yesterday to learn to TIG.
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I have the exact same welder. The ol' workhorse Lincoln 300/300. They are pretty bullet proof and built like a tank. You can TIG aluminum with it too, since the 300/300 comes with AC high freq. Very easy to learn on.. They weigh about 500 lbs though, but never die.. I prefer the inverters for weight, but they seem to be more finnicky and things go out sooner, but these old solid state welders often last a lifetime or longer. As you blow these things out a few times a year, they'll about last forever..


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Re: new offset build

Post by Daves87gn » July 19th, 2021, 10:18 pm

dacolson wrote:
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Did you buy it from you gas supplier? Mine is always supper helpful w warranty work, support etc
Yes, was told not the first one they got with issues, one that came in the week before wouldn’t even turn on right out of the box, same model as mine.

I brought it back to them for exchange, counter guy said no problem, manager said “nope”. I was told I would have to take it to a third party about 40 minutes away to get checked. 3rd party company is only open durn my work hours, so I would have to take time of work to drop off and again to pick up. I contacted manufacturer at that point in hopes of fixing it myself, and now have no reply in 2 weeks.


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Re: new offset build

Post by Daves87gn » July 19th, 2021, 10:28 pm

tinspark wrote:
July 19th, 2021, 9:45 pm
Daves87gn wrote:
July 18th, 2021, 2:42 pm
dacolson wrote:
July 18th, 2021, 1:18 pm
Ya. They should cover it for sure. Did you buy it new?


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Yes, brand new it’s about 2 months old now, I still have the box and everything. I want to be sure, I’m not bashing or trying to bash Lincoln, we have 2 Lincoln’s at work, 1 stays at our shop, one on a metal pallet that get loaded, unloaded and abused and both work great. My buddy Tom is on his 4th Lincoln, 2 other friends that weld have Lincoln’s. This is the welder I was using yesterday to learn to TIG.
5ED3CAFD-B559-4CC9-A2CB-71137D95EDD3.jpeg
I have the exact same welder. The ol' workhorse Lincoln 300/300. They are pretty bullet proof and built like a tank. You can TIG aluminum with it too, since the 300/300 comes with AC high freq. Very easy to learn on.. They weigh about 500 lbs though, but never die.. I prefer the inverters for weight, but they seem to be more finnicky and things go out sooner, but these old solid state welders often last a lifetime or longer. As you blow these things out a few times a year, they'll about last forever..
Yes, very easy to learn on, that was basically my 4th TIG weld.

It’s a hell of a machine, I’ve seen Tom weld aluminum, titanium, and steel.


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Re: new offset build

Post by dacolson » July 19th, 2021, 10:33 pm

Daves87gn wrote:
dacolson wrote:
July 18th, 2021, 9:39 pm
Did you buy it from you gas supplier? Mine is always supper helpful w warranty work, support etc
Yes, was told not the first one they got with issues, one that came in the week before wouldn’t even turn on right out of the box, same model as mine.

I brought it back to them for exchange, counter guy said no problem, manager said “nope”. I was told I would have to take it to a third party about 40 minutes away to get checked. 3rd party company is only open durn my work hours, so I would have to take time of work to drop off and again to pick up. I contacted manufacturer at that point in hopes of fixing it myself, and now have no reply in 2 weeks.
That’s rough. I have heard of being sent back to the mfg for support but never being ignored by the mfg. Too bad your local shop isn’t helping you out. Time for a new supplier.


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Re: new offset build

Post by Daves87gn » July 20th, 2021, 2:13 pm

I sent them this yesterday
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And got this this morning
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So frustrating, to be honest it has left a bad taste to the point I no longer want this welder.

So now I’m going to see if I can find a shop from the list he sent me that is open when I’m not working.
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Re: new offset build

Post by Dirtytires » July 21st, 2021, 11:01 am

Customer service departments have decreased in size over the years and response times are definitely longer than ideal. I sent a technical question to 3M over a month ago and have yet to get a response. It sounds like they are going to try to get it resolved for you, which is good. I have had the same Lincoln machines (welder and plasma)for 20 years and have had zero problems from them. Let them fix it and get past this inconvenience and start enjoying your new machine.



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Re: new offset build

Post by Daves87gn » July 23rd, 2021, 3:03 pm

Dirtytires wrote:
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Customer service departments have decreased in size over the years and response times are definitely longer than ideal. I sent a technical question to 3M over a month ago and have yet to get a response. It sounds like they are going to try to get it resolved for you, which is good. I have had the same Lincoln machines (welder and plasma)for 20 years and have had zero problems from them. Let them fix it and get past this inconvenience and start enjoying your new machine.
I dropped off my welder to a warranty authorized dealer, let’s just say it’s in good company 🤣.


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Re: new offset build

Post by Daves87gn » July 24th, 2021, 11:21 pm

Pictures are a little dark, just finished working on it. Smoker is basically done, tomorrow weld on handle to firebox door, some expanded metal on bottom racking and finally paint.
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Re: new offset build

Post by dacolson » July 25th, 2021, 8:46 am

Congrats Dave. Looking great


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Re: new offset build

Post by Daves87gn » August 15th, 2021, 11:05 pm

So finally got her completely done, new legs are on. Got her insides coated in cooking oil and she was ready for her first fire/seasoning…first chimney.

Followed by 3 small splits

When she settled in she was 10~15* across the bottom gauges.
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Re: new offset build

Post by Daves87gn » August 15th, 2021, 11:28 pm

2 new questions

How much of a swing in temperature do you want to see when dropping in a new split?

I had come down to 300* and dropped in a split about 3/4 side of average split and temperature jumped up by 100*. I’m guessing I need to split my splits in 1/2?


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Re: new offset build

Post by towtruck » August 15th, 2021, 11:28 pm

I like the look of that !!!! Nice work.



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Re: new offset build

Post by towtruck » August 15th, 2021, 11:31 pm

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2 new questions

How much of a swing in temperature do you want to see when dropping in a new split?

I had come down to 300* and dropped in a split about 3/4 side of average split and temperature jumped up by 100*. I’m guessing I need to split my splits in 1/2?
Most splits are fist sized in my experience. That is a big jump in temp....how fast is it climbing up there? Once up to temps your air intake will get closed off quite a bit. Start with a small fire and sneak up on your cooking temps.....best part is practicing to see what it likes.



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Re: new offset build

Post by Daves87gn » August 15th, 2021, 11:49 pm

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