First Smoker help

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First Smoker help

Post by johnwash » August 19th, 2014, 10:36 pm

I am relatively new to smoking. I've used someones pellet smoker and have added a smoker box on a gas grill and i can tell the diffrence between that and the real stuff so i think its time i get a smoker. I don't want to spend so much money but i don't want a cheap piece of garbage so i thought i might build my own. I was thinking of building one of brick.I have little exprience building. Does anyone have any ideas. What will i need and how hard will it be? And also around how much will it cost? Thanks in advance.



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Re: First Smoker help

Post by The Czar » August 20th, 2014, 5:22 am

Welcome and you can get into a UDS for about 150 bucks!!!!


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Re: First Smoker help

Post by Pete Mazz » August 20th, 2014, 5:23 am

How large of a smoker do you want? IOW, how much food will you smoke at once? At the least you'd have to make a couple of doors out of metal. I'm thinking you could build a vertical out of brick easier than a RF or offset.

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Re: First Smoker help

Post by SmokinFF » August 20th, 2014, 7:45 am

:welcome: The UDS would be your cheapest and easiest entry level smoker. And they crank out some good Q.


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Re: First Smoker help

Post by johnwash » August 20th, 2014, 8:00 am

I was thinking of getting a uds but i wanted to know if making my own would be better quality Q. At most i would smoke a whole brisket or a few racks. Of ribs.




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Re: First Smoker help

Post by SmokinFF » August 20th, 2014, 10:59 am

A lot of comp teams are using drums to make award winning Q. Check out Click here : BBQsmokersupply on the index page to buy a UDS kit. All you need to find then is a drum. :beer: Besides that, it's better if you build it.


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Re: First Smoker help

Post by johnwash » August 20th, 2014, 2:30 pm

What will be cheaper and what will make better food



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Re: First Smoker help

Post by SmokinFF » August 20th, 2014, 2:55 pm

UDS and the Q is up to you. Check out other UDS threads on here and see if it'll work for you.


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Re: First Smoker help

Post by johnwash » August 20th, 2014, 3:54 pm

Iill definetly check out uds but for building one what type of doors do i need and where can i find them



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Re: First Smoker help

Post by SmokinFF » August 20th, 2014, 4:57 pm

No doors. Check out the threads. You'll need an open head drum


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Re: First Smoker help

Post by johnwash » August 20th, 2014, 7:32 pm

No i meant if i built a smoker out of bricks



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Post by Rodcrafter » August 20th, 2014, 8:09 pm

I would make my own so I could get what I want. Not being limited by what's available.


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Re: First Smoker help

Post by johnwash » August 20th, 2014, 9:54 pm

So does anyone have any ideas i can use and sone directions



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Re: First Smoker help

Post by Puff » August 20th, 2014, 11:03 pm

In all likelihood, you would need to fabricate them for the build you decide on. All would depend on that design. These comments you read are all from guys with lots of experience and expertise. If you are looking to get started with the least investment, the ugly drum has some real beautiful Q coming out of it. And if you look at some of the posts on the site, you'll be more than impressed with some of those ugly drums.

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Re: First Smoker help

Post by Tom_Heath » August 20th, 2014, 11:25 pm

I have several cookers and 1st choice is the drum. Providing that I am not cooking a ton of food.

I would vote a drum for anyone that is backyard cooking. Meaning less then 3 slabs at a time. Less then 4 butts at a time. and so on.

A drum can go with you to a friends house very easily.


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Re: First Smoker help

Post by Pete Mazz » August 21st, 2014, 5:38 am

To make a smoker out of mostly brick you'd probably need to start with some sort of framework made of steel. Maybe 1" square tubing, something to mount shelf tracks on and doors of course. If you don't weld you could search out a local welding shop. I'm thinking a rectangular frame 24" wide x 18" deep x 48 " high. The bottom 18" sectioned off for a firebox with a baffle plate of some sort and a door leaving 30" or so for the cook chamber and another door. Look on the site for vertical smokers and you'll get the idea. Now, instead of skinning the cooker in metal, build it out of brick. You'll need to seal it up pretty well and make some sort of small chimney but it seems doable. My smoker interior size was built around commercially available grates to save time and money.


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Post by Rodcrafter » August 21st, 2014, 5:53 am

:beer: :beer:


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Post by johnwash » August 21st, 2014, 8:58 am

Right back at you :beer: :beer:



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Re: First Smoker help

Post by johnwash » August 22nd, 2014, 7:10 am

Ive looked at the uds and they seem great but the one problem is that they are a little small and a little more expensive than i thought. I still might get one but before i do i wanna see if i should and can build my own



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Re: First Smoker help

Post by Clover Ridge Smokers » August 22nd, 2014, 8:02 am

You can surely build one cheaper than buying one. And you can also make one as big as a 110 gallon which is twice the size of 99% of the UDS's out there.


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Re: First Smoker help

Post by SmokinFF » August 22nd, 2014, 8:06 am

How much you lookin to spend? You could build a UDS without welding for close to $100. However if your looking to brick one up, it's in a permanent place and will probably cost more than $100 if you buy or build a door.


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Re: First Smoker help

Post by johnwash » August 22nd, 2014, 9:00 am

If i dont already have a drum (which i dont) it will at least cost 200. What is an estimated cost of a door



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Re: First Smoker help

Post by Big T » August 22nd, 2014, 6:01 pm

I don't know where you live but I can't imagine a drum costing that much. I can buy them all day long from $5-$30 depending on the size and what was in them. If you have to buy steel to build the doors or pay someone to build them, you'll have way more invested than the cost of a UDS. I pay $150 for a 4'x8' sheet of 1/4'' steel, I know you want to build it as cheap as you can but the cost goes up pretty quick when you start buying supplies. jm2cw


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