Insulated Cabinet Traeger Conversion

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Insulated Cabinet Traeger Conversion

Post by sappleton » December 5th, 2016, 3:10 pm

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I am currently the owner of a used Traeger bull smoker and I am looking to sacrifice it and convert it into a small insulated cabinet smoker measuring 20" deep, 24" long and around 36" tall. When doing early concepts I found myself wandering through the various smokers and I did notice the smokers Edna and Easybake were very similar to what I was envisioning. I am enticed by the idea of channeling the flow was curious if channeling the air up false walls and then down to a lower exhaust stack was worth it? I am also still bouncing between saving the base of the traeger or just pulling the firepot and components from the cooking chamber. Any suggestions would be helpful.

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Re: Insulated Cabinet Traeger Conversion

Post by Big T » December 5th, 2016, 8:31 pm

I'm not much help on the pellet part but as far as the vertical reverse flow part, most guys believe that it's not necessary. If you have any specific questions about Edna and Easybake you can pm Gizmo as those were his creations.


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Re: Insulated Cabinet Traeger Conversion

Post by sappleton » December 5th, 2016, 9:56 pm

Thanks I will do that



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Re: Insulated Cabinet Traeger Conversion

Post by Pete Mazz » December 6th, 2016, 6:02 am

Yea, I'm in the "not worth it" camp. The natural convection in a vertical is all you need.


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Re: Insulated Cabinet Traeger Conversion

Post by Squiggle » December 6th, 2016, 8:42 am

:yth: verticals are fine without flow channeling, I have two & both just go straight out the stack. :kewl:


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Re: Insulated Cabinet Traeger Conversion

Post by Gizmo » December 6th, 2016, 7:18 pm

Hello again Sean! Post a sketch when you get a chance so we can see what you're thinking .... that usually gets a good argument - I mean - discussion going :D


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Re: Insulated Cabinet Traeger Conversion

Post by Rodcrafter » December 7th, 2016, 10:58 am

Bring it!


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Re: Insulated Cabinet Traeger Conversion

Post by sappleton » December 11th, 2016, 5:32 pm

I have my basic model done. Using 1" x 1" HSS frame built around the bottom half of the Traeger. Single panel front door and I made the racks offset from the smoker wall to allow the air to circulate around. Right now I have the stack coming out halfway up the chamber.
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Here is a cross section view showing my planned heat deflector and drip tray. The main idea is fairly simple to allow the heat to rise to the left side of the smoker and up. Ideally it would cool and come down the right side and exit. I think I have seen something similiar in many other smokers and the it seems to make sense.

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Re: Insulated Cabinet Traeger Conversion

Post by Tom_Heath » December 11th, 2016, 9:40 pm

Mine ran perfect exactly how you have it drawn.


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Re: Insulated Cabinet Traeger Conversion

Post by Gizmo » December 12th, 2016, 7:19 am

I like it. I have a hunch the stack could be higher up and it might breathe better .... the top of the stack should be at least above the top of the cooker - or you are building in your own 'dead spot' and you'll be discoloring the side of the cooker prematurely.

Question: did you mean to draw the drip pan/BP to connect to the stack side of the FB with a grease discharge? That way the smoke would have to come up the left (drive unit) side and cross the CC to reach the stack to help the smoke flavor....? Just curious .... :D


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Re: Insulated Cabinet Traeger Conversion

Post by sappleton » December 12th, 2016, 8:54 pm

Thanks for the advice I will raise the stack outlet above the cabinet.

Yes that was what I was thinking. I have seen that several times and it seems to make sense to try and get the smoke and hot air to move from left to right.



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Re: Insulated Cabinet Traeger Conversion

Post by Rodcrafter » December 12th, 2016, 10:37 pm

I don't think that the smoke will have a chance to cool to exit. But it will exit because there's only so much space for the moving air. I have made a vertical with 2 different elevations of stacks. It gave me the option of how smokey I wanted.


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Re: Insulated Cabinet Traeger Conversion

Post by Gizmo » December 13th, 2016, 6:04 am

RC did the lower stack position create a noticeable increase in smoke flavor? :-B


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Post by Rodcrafter » December 13th, 2016, 8:44 am

It did, but having the experience I have now I believe it was too smokey. My wife for one doesn't like a heavy smoke flavor. I don't think the smoke really got stale.


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Re: Insulated Cabinet Traeger Conversion

Post by sappleton » December 13th, 2016, 10:34 am

That is interesting. So really it would be better to have a higher stack and maybe use a butterfly valve to control the flow from the smoker.

Right now if I want more smoke I do use one of those smoking tubes they seem to do alright but it is hard to control because the current smoker leaks from everywhere.



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Re: Insulated Cabinet Traeger Conversion

Post by sappleton » December 15th, 2016, 9:53 pm

Smoker is in the truck ready to go to the shop.



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Re: Insulated Cabinet Traeger Conversion

Post by Big T » December 15th, 2016, 10:44 pm

It's GO time !!


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Re: Insulated Cabinet Traeger Conversion

Post by sappleton » December 16th, 2016, 4:35 pm

Got all the components out and I am ready to start cutting.
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Post by sappleton » December 16th, 2016, 8:33 pm

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Re: Insulated Cabinet Traeger Conversion

Post by Gizmo » December 17th, 2016, 5:22 am

I've heard of buying a quarter beef before but Sheeeesh!
This is gonna be very interesting! :kewl:


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Re: Insulated Cabinet Traeger Conversion

Post by sappleton » December 17th, 2016, 6:56 am

Funny part is that growing up and again now I still buy I'm beef and pig by the half. When we were kids it was a weekend family activity to go butcher the cow.

Having some fun with this winter project though. Have to do something it's below -35 Celsius here



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Re: Insulated Cabinet Traeger Conversion

Post by Gizmo » December 18th, 2016, 6:11 am

OUCH! And I was complaining about the -7F we're getting right now ..... :hissy:

I'm also working on the numbers for an old Traeger insulated conversion project for this winter so I'm not too far behind you right now .... :-B


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Re: Insulated Cabinet Traeger Conversion

Post by Tom_Heath » December 18th, 2016, 9:26 am

The one I had didn't even have a proper stack. It just used a 6 inch hvac elbow. Some times I didn't even use the elbow. It ran great.


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Re: Insulated Cabinet Traeger Conversion

Post by Squiggle » December 19th, 2016, 2:16 am

Wow, that's very cool! :kewl:


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Re: Insulated Cabinet Traeger Conversion

Post by sappleton » December 21st, 2016, 4:32 pm

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Done cutting.... Now time to clean up the metal and start fabricating the new body.
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