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Re: 15 lb packer

Post by mp4 » August 8th, 2018, 7:04 am


Dirtytires wrote:Many thanks-I gotta break down and get a vacuum sealer...
When you do start shopping around try and find a chamber type vacuum sealer. They are more expensive on the initial purchase but the bags are substantially cheaper (4-10 cents a bag depending on size). They also allow you to vacuum seal liquids which (believe it or not) comes in handy. We vacuum seal eggs for camping trips to save space even...crack a meals worth into a bag, seal it up and cut it open when it's time to cook.
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Re: 15 lb packer

Post by JKalchik » August 8th, 2018, 7:18 am

I wish I had the space for a chamber sealer....

I killed 2 FoodSaver brand vacuum sealers. NEVER AGAIN. Their customer service is worthless and none-existent. The Vacmaster brand that mp4 show above has *GREAT* customer service. I have a pump sealer that works great. It sealed 50+ bags last weekend without taking a break.

I won't disagree that the chamber bags are cheaper than the pump bags, they're just simple bags without vacuum channels. Last bunch of stock I bought for my pump sealer came from http://webstaurantstore.com, I've been pretty happy, and quite a bit cheaper than what I'd been buying.


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Re: 15 lb packer

Post by Mo Smoke » August 8th, 2018, 9:56 pm

Wait..I have a question. Why is there a big difference in using the ugly drum smoker vs the stick burner? U don’t cook with wood on the ugly drum? I’ve been thinking about building one.


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Re: 15 lb packer

Post by Big T » August 8th, 2018, 10:56 pm

The drum burns charcoal briquettes or lump with wood chunks where as a stick burner burns straight wood. The food cooked on the drum is great and has a good amount of smoke flavor but IMO it just lacks something that the straight wood fire gives it. I've had plenty of people tell me that they don't taste any difference between them but others say that they notice a subtle difference. A lot of guys win comps while cooking on drums so you can cook some great Q on them. I would recommend a UDS to anyone, especially if you were already considering building one.


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Re: 15 lb packer

Post by Mo Smoke » August 9th, 2018, 2:21 am

Yeah I hear great things about them. I want one just for brisket and small cooks so I don’t have to watch the smoker for 12 hrs when it’s only 1 piece of meat.
So why can’t a uds just start with a few coals and then burn sticks just like a RF? Although u might have to cut em down to fit....or why not just fill the basket with wood chunks.? Isn’t it the design that makes it burn slow and hold temp so it’s ideal for long cooks?


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Re: 15 lb packer

Post by Rodcrafter » August 9th, 2018, 5:45 am

Boy this turned into a really useful thread. From brisket porn to info on sealing stuff. I never even looked at one of those cool sealers, but I will if/when mine dies.

Oh and on the UDS my experience with that has been I use the same fuel as BigT stated but using a defuser helps a lot to cause a better burning fire. At least I think so, the fire has to run hotter because of the defuser using someone the heat up. It just seems like a more complete burn.

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Re: 15 lb packer

Post by JKalchik » August 9th, 2018, 10:02 am

'tires.... lemme throw this out for ya.....

Local grocery store put beef tenderloins on sale a couple of weeks ago..... for $6.99/lb. We bought $140 worth, carved them up into filets, vacuum sealed them in individual packages, and threw them in the deep freeze. Granted, they're not prime steaks, but for about $9, the 2 of us have a pretty good dinner on the table.

One thing I'll point out. I'll *NEVER* buy another FoodSaver branded device, and highly recommend that nobody else does either. I've killed 2, and their customer service is somewhere between worthless and non-existent. I have a VacMaster 260 now that's outlasted both of the FoodSavers and it just plain runs rings around them and doesn't even break a sweat.


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Re: 15 lb packer

Post by Big T » August 9th, 2018, 4:52 pm

Mo Smoke wrote:
August 9th, 2018, 2:21 am
Yeah I hear great things about them. I want one just for brisket and small cooks so I don’t have to watch the smoker for 12 hrs when it’s only 1 piece of meat.
So why can’t a uds just start with a few coals and then burn sticks just like a RF? Although u might have to cut em down to fit....or why not just fill the basket with wood chunks.? Isn’t it the design that makes it burn slow and hold temp so it’s ideal for long cooks?


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The reason they burn so long is because there's just enough air present for a small amount of charcoal to burn which allows the drum to maintain low steady temps for a long time. There's not enough air for the wood to burn a clean fire, it would basically smolder which would produce terrible smoke and no heat. The charcoal will burn hot enough to burn the smaller wood chunks and produce good flavor. If you had enough air for total combustion then your wood wouldn't last very long. I also use a deflector over my fire basket so the grease doesn't flood my coals and risk putting them out.


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Re: 15 lb packer

Post by Big T » August 9th, 2018, 5:02 pm

JKalchik wrote:
August 9th, 2018, 10:02 am

One thing I'll point out. I'll *NEVER* buy another FoodSaver branded device, and highly recommend that nobody else does either. I've killed 2, and their customer service is somewhere between worthless and non-existent. I have a VacMaster 260 now that's outlasted both of the FoodSavers and it just plain runs rings around them and doesn't even break a sweat.
I've had a FoodSaver brand for about a year and a half and I agree that it's almost more trouble to use than it's worth. It doesn't draw the bag completely closed unless I keep hitting the pulse button and then there's a small amount of liquid or moisture trapped in between the seal so it doesn't seal completely closed. It hasn't died yet so I'll keep using it as long as I can but I'll definitely pony up a few more dollars for the next one.


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Re: 15 lb packer

Post by Rodcrafter » August 10th, 2018, 6:57 pm

Thanks BigT!

I needed to make my own brisket for a change.

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Re: 15 lb packer

Post by ajfoxy » August 10th, 2018, 7:11 pm

Nice RC, now I'm hungry again... :needfood:


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Re: 15 lb packer

Post by Big T » August 10th, 2018, 7:38 pm

:yth: I'm glad I could inspire you RC.. lol
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Re: 15 lb packer

Post by Dirtytires » August 10th, 2018, 10:24 pm

I’m seeing the makin for a brisket picture war!

Looks great.



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Re: 15 lb packer

Post by Rodcrafter » August 12th, 2018, 6:04 pm

Thanks guys.
It was good on Friday and Saturday and Sunday with extra. I like a 20 # brisket to carry us through the weekend.


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