Elmacho's Mini Build(s)!

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Re: Elmacho's Mini Build(s)!

Postby Elmacho » January 12th, 2018, 4:13 am

Thermometer Question.

What length stem should I use for the Mini? I swore I saw it in the plans/shopping list, but cannot for the life of me find what size Thermometer to get.



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Re: Elmacho's Mini Build(s)!

Postby wbegg » January 12th, 2018, 10:51 am

Weld so the door can be removed.



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Re: Elmacho's Mini Build(s)!

Postby -=PEAKABOO=- » January 12th, 2018, 1:26 pm

Did you have the firebox material cut locally? I am interested in building this same smoker.
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Elmacho wrote:Another cold night in the shop. Really going to have to invest in some propane for that heater.

With the welding table complete, it was time to inventory all of my firebox puzzle pieces. It is going to be a long day of building fire boxes tomorrow.

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I was hesitant at first to have the pieces laser cut, but man will it save a lot of time and headache.


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Re: Elmacho's Mini Build(s)!

Postby Elmacho » January 12th, 2018, 2:28 pm

-=PEAKABOO=- wrote:Did you have the firebox material cut locally? I am interested in building this same smoker.
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Elmacho wrote:Another cold night in the shop. Really going to have to invest in some propane for that heater.

With the welding table complete, it was time to inventory all of my firebox puzzle pieces. It is going to be a long day of building fire boxes tomorrow.

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I was hesitant at first to have the pieces laser cut, but man will it save a lot of time and headache.


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I use a buddy down in Florida. He ships via flat rate USPS so shipping is quite reasonable. He can cut anything you imagine. When I get home i can get you his info.


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Re: Elmacho's Mini Build(s)!

Postby -=PEAKABOO=- » January 12th, 2018, 3:24 pm

Cool and thanks. I have a friend with a plasma table but would like to look at other options as well.



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Re: Elmacho's Mini Build(s)!

Postby Elmacho » January 12th, 2018, 9:05 pm

-=PEAKABOO=- wrote:Cool and thanks. I have a friend with a plasma table but would like to look at other options as well.


Plasma table did the 16ga perfect, but it struggled with the 1/2” but that all depends on the plasma cutter. Your friend’s may handle 1/2” with ease.

I like the laser parts because they are precise, clean, and you can go straight from package, clamp, and weld. It’s cheating, I know. :)


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Re: Elmacho's Mini Build(s)!

Postby Dirtytires » January 12th, 2018, 9:57 pm

Not fair....I spent weeks cutting and prepping my pieces.

And I have plasma!



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Re: Elmacho's Mini Build(s)!

Postby Squiggle » January 13th, 2018, 2:47 am

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Re: Elmacho's Mini Build(s)!

Postby -=PEAKABOO=- » January 13th, 2018, 4:06 am

Elmacho wrote:
-=PEAKABOO=- wrote:Cool and thanks. I have a friend with a plasma table but would like to look at other options as well.


Plasma table did the 16ga perfect, but it struggled with the 1/2” but that all depends on the plasma cutter. Your friend’s may handle 1/2” with ease.

I like the laser parts because they are precise, clean, and you can go straight from package, clamp, and weld. It’s cheating, I know. :)


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Damn 1/2"? Where does this smoker use 1/2" material?



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Re: Elmacho's Mini Build(s)!

Postby Elmacho » January 13th, 2018, 4:15 am

-=PEAKABOO=- wrote:
Elmacho wrote:
-=PEAKABOO=- wrote:Cool and thanks. I have a friend with a plasma table but would like to look at other options as well.


Plasma table did the 16ga perfect, but it struggled with the 1/2” but that all depends on the plasma cutter. Your friend’s may handle 1/2” with ease.

I like the laser parts because they are precise, clean, and you can go straight from package, clamp, and weld. It’s cheating, I know. :)


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Damn 1/2"? Where does this smoker use 1/2" material?


There are a few pieces in the firebox. Have you bought the plans yet? If you opt for the dxf drawings everything is laid out and nested.


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Re: Elmacho's Mini Build(s)!

Postby -=PEAKABOO=- » January 13th, 2018, 1:45 pm

I have not bought the plans yet. I am still trying to decide what I am going to do. You may have already mentioned this but how much $ do you have in materials and having it all cut?



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Re: Elmacho's Mini Build(s)!

Postby Elmacho » January 13th, 2018, 2:01 pm

-=PEAKABOO=- wrote:I have not bought the plans yet. I am still trying to decide what I am going to do. You may have already mentioned this but how much $ do you have in materials and having it all cut?


All in is about $1150 having the firebox laser cut and the 16ga CNC plasma cut.


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Re: Elmacho's Mini Build(s)!

Postby Heatermeter builder » January 13th, 2018, 2:37 pm

And for a comparison, in my corner of the country the double pan came to about $1600 all laser cut


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Re: Elmacho's Mini Build(s)!

Postby Elmacho » January 13th, 2018, 2:38 pm

Heatermeter builder wrote:And for a comparison, in my corner of the country the double pan came to about $1600 all laser cut


Double Pan is next =)



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Re: Elmacho's Mini Build(s)!

Postby Elmacho » January 13th, 2018, 2:43 pm

Started with sheet metal today. As I expected and feared it is a little difficult to weld sheet metal. I’m going to have to adjust my welder and dial it in for the thin stuff.

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Re: Elmacho's Mini Build(s)!

Postby ajfoxy » January 13th, 2018, 5:41 pm

With thinner stuff try stitch welding it. Do a little bead leave a big gap do another small bead. Then when it is cool, repeat until all the welds are filled. It does take a whole heap longer but saves on/minimises warping etc. Even do a bit on one panel and move to another panel and go around until all the welds are filled in.
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Re: Elmacho's Mini Build(s)!

Postby Elmacho » January 13th, 2018, 6:11 pm

Yea it is going to take a good long while, and I have two more to look forward to. Ouch. Problem I am having is getting the puddle to flow right. It either wants to just sit on top of the metal and not give me good penetration, or it tries to blow out the square tube or the sheet.This first one will be my buddy's. I can see that already. =)) =))



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Re: Elmacho's Mini Build(s)!

Postby -=PEAKABOO=- » January 13th, 2018, 7:48 pm

Elmacho wrote:Started with sheet metal today. As I expected and feared it is a little difficult to weld sheet metal. I’m going to have to adjust my welder and dial it in for the thin stuff.

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I may tig weld my thin stuff.



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Re: Elmacho's Mini Build(s)!

Postby Elmacho » January 13th, 2018, 8:18 pm

-=PEAKABOO=- wrote:
Elmacho wrote:Started with sheet metal today. As I expected and feared it is a little difficult to weld sheet metal. I’m going to have to adjust my welder and dial it in for the thin stuff.

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I may tig weld my thin stuff.



That’s one of my next purchases. Tig would look sweet too.


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Re: Elmacho's Mini Build(s)!

Postby ajfoxy » January 14th, 2018, 12:16 am

This first one will be my buddy's. I can see that already


Hahaha... I can relate to that logic. =))


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Re: Elmacho's Mini Build(s)!

Postby Heatermeter builder » January 14th, 2018, 2:18 am

I had the same problem on the interior sheets. I had to fix a lot of blow outs. Some areas my welding looked great then all of a sudden it would start to blow through. I did get better and much better when i switched to .023 wire and I played with the wire feed speed


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Re: Elmacho's Mini Build(s)!

Postby -=PEAKABOO=- » January 14th, 2018, 3:25 pm

When welding thin material to a ticker material I find it really helps if you "hang out" on the thicker longer, just a quick dip over to the thin material. Another way that works is to "tack tack tack tack" with the trigger.



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Re: Elmacho's Mini Build(s)!

Postby Weldun » January 14th, 2018, 4:54 pm

Sometimes welding down hand in the vertical position helps due to the fact that you carry less heat in the weld zone.


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Re: Elmacho's Mini Build(s)!

Postby Rodcrafter » January 15th, 2018, 2:32 pm

I find that as long as I turn the wire speed down and the amps way down I can weld surprisingly thin metals. You may need smaller wire to pull it off really well.

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Re: Elmacho's Mini Build(s)!

Postby Cole » January 15th, 2018, 6:55 pm

Please let us know what settings you use for the sheet metal.




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